SD1 sharpness settings etc.. (edit)

Written over Dpreview about sharpness, profiles and such..
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1027&message=38817075

Make sure you read this one (or see). A comparison made between SPP5’s sharpening output and Silkypix pro 5’s output. Silkypix looks like a winner! Actually looks quite remarkable. Thanks Uli for the comparison, the picture he used can be found in my SD1 Raw pack nr 2.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1027&message=38826090

Brian? Please bring Raw Developer to the table soon! :)

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9 Responses to SD1 sharpness settings etc.. (edit)

  1. Raúl says:

    Silkypix Pro 5 is really impressive. I downloaded the beta version (in japanese…) and have been using it to convert the X3F files from my DP2.
    In my opinion, it is the best raw converter for Foveon. Colors are much better than what you get in Lightroom, and you have great control over sharpness and noise reduction.
    Sigma Photo Pro is better for highlight recovery, though.

    • Carl Rytterfalk says:

      I should perhaps emphasize that Silkypix pro 5 DO NOT have support for SD1 files yet. But starting off with a as thick file as possible, with as little sharpening applied as possible, save as TIFF and continue developing inside Silkypix, that’s the recipe of today.

      For me, it’s a no go. I’m on a Mac and Silkypix 5 Pro isn’t out for Macs yet.

      • Robin says:

        That’s what I thought while reading that stuff. Conversion was done in SPP … ^^ Of course, sharpening was hopefully deactivated or at least reduced to minimum (-2), but who has insight what was applied to the image and how much data was lost?

        Anybody out there with some testings x3fDNGTIFF@16Bit@ProPhoto? I’d be even afraid to use DNG because I didn’t check what happens during conversion … ;)

        But doubtless and nevertheless, Silky did a great job in further editing!

  2. Uli says:

    Hi Carl,

    if You want a go, instead of a no go… ;-)

    …just use Silkypix Pro 4 on the mac for the TIFF until version 5 for mac is out:

    A saturated Silkypix Pro 4 example crop made out of Your SD1 SDIM1547 using the TIFF workaround – amazing isn’t it?

  3. Uli says:

    Here the SPP5 crop with auto setting (really ;-) everything on zero):


    P.S.:
    Can one add more than 1 picture per message?

    P.P.S.:
    I think, I will show this also on dpreview,
    because it may there help a few more people than here.

    P.P.P.S.:
    You have a nice and helpful homepage!

  4. Person says:

    Hmm…

    I actually like the SPP crop better, more natural.

    • Uli says:

      Hmm…

      …if You said so according to this SPP5 version with sharpening set to -2 where no sharpening artefacts and no smudgy leafs exept the sad colors are visible,
      I would have understand that.

      But if You find the SPP5 artefact desert with sharpening SETTING 0 more natural…

      …well it is Your decision as a anonymous person.

  5. [img]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/5900809874_0e632947f0_b.jpg[/img]

    I think that my own “proper” and simple adjustments done in SPP5 still does a pretty good job. And I’m not sure that your above examples looks any better. Though, the one you showed over at dpreview did look better. :) Especially in terms of contrast and sharpness.

    • Uli says:

      Yes, for small web presentation, or prints on special paper it may fit the need, ;)

      but honestly, U see that SPP5 is throwing those incredible details simply away that the SD1 could deliver…

      …because of it’s devastating sharpening routine, wich starts to act from -2 setting instead of the 0 setting.

      Which is IMHO silly and sad, because the soft blurring function in the old SPPs,
      where the zero sharpness was at about -0.9 is also gone with this “strange” decision to apply exessiv oversharpening even at -1…

      …which also destroys the natural details that could be captured with very good lenses like the 70 mm macro – even in the corners of the frame!

      They threw the only obvious advantage of the SD1, which could be seen by everyone (exept a Person :D ) away, to replace it by false sharpening artefacts…

      …what will You do to cure this?

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