Comments on: Schillerska revisited – Day in Black and white! http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/ Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:16:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112359 Carl Rytterfalk Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:39:08 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112359 Hi Hans, thanks for showing your BW's, they look very nice too me! Both with subjects and over all tonality. Great work! Hi Hans, thanks for showing your BW’s, they look very nice too me! Both with subjects and over all tonality. Great work!

]]> By: Hans Muus http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112358 Hans Muus Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:33:36 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112358 hi carl, apparently my uploads didn't get through. here is a second try. they all followed the route: dp2-raw / imported as dng in lightroom / developed with my foveon-preset as described in my email earlier today / converted in lr to black and white (grayscale). [edit from Carl; Pictures was stopped as spam and is now correctly viewed above in the their original spot] hi carl,
apparently my uploads didn’t get through. here is a second try. they all followed the route: dp2-raw / imported as dng in lightroom / developed with my foveon-preset as described in my email earlier today / converted in lr to black and white (grayscale).

[edit from Carl; Pictures was stopped as spam and is now correctly viewed above in the their original spot]

]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112356 Carl Rytterfalk Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:49:44 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112356 Hi Hans, Today Lightroom has "full" support for DP2 raw files and there is no need to convert anymore. Results will probably be about the same as the conversion itself is made by Adobe too. The DNG however can be nicely used in Raw Developer as it has no native DP2 raw support (only SD14).. Have you tried SPP Monochrome mode and compared? I noticed that Silkypix has really nice BW support if RAW files are treated the right way. You can almost get what SPP gives. But with more control, which is very important for some pictures. Hi Hans, Today Lightroom has “full” support for DP2 raw files and there is no need to convert anymore. Results will probably be about the same as the conversion itself is made by Adobe too. The DNG however can be nicely used in Raw Developer as it has no native DP2 raw support (only SD14)..

Have you tried SPP Monochrome mode and compared? I noticed that Silkypix has really nice BW support if RAW files are treated the right way. You can almost get what SPP gives. But with more control, which is very important for some pictures.

]]> By: Hans Muus http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112354 Hans Muus Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:27:49 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112354 hi carl, thanks for your quick reply. i upload my dp2-raw files directly as dng's in lightroom 2-something, and then convert them to grayscale, using a preset i made following your suggestions in a video in which you developed a colour picture of one or two geese. it involves special settings for vibrance, several colour sliders, contrast and so on. i think these pictures have the same film-like quality as files converted in spp. what do you think? hi carl,
thanks for your quick reply. i upload my dp2-raw files directly as dng’s in lightroom 2-something, and then convert them to grayscale, using a preset i made following your suggestions in a video in which you developed a colour picture of one or two geese. it involves special settings for vibrance, several colour sliders, contrast and so on. i think these pictures have the same film-like quality as files converted in spp. what do you think?

]]> By: Hans http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112352 Hans Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:34:36 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112352 hi carl, thanks for your quick reply. i am including a few pictures i imported directly into lightroom 2.5 as dng's, and then converted to black and white via grayscale. all the time using the foveon-preset i created going by a video of yours in which you suggest a number of settings that were ont their turn suggested to you by someone else (vibrance, separate color-values, contrast and so on). i think these pictures have the film-like quality as well, don't you? [img]http://www.rytterfalk.com/wp-content/upload/8-30 vbosch & ronde-3.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rytterfalk.com/wp-content/upload/10-17 saakje & chaia-5.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rytterfalk.com/wp-content/upload/deylius-2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rytterfalk.com/wp-content/upload/deylius-19.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rytterfalk.com/wp-content/upload/deylius-12.jpg[/img] hi carl, thanks for your quick reply. i am including a few pictures i imported directly into lightroom 2.5 as dng’s, and then converted to black and white via grayscale. all the time using the foveon-preset i created going by a video of yours in which you suggest a number of settings that were ont their turn suggested to you by someone else (vibrance, separate color-values, contrast and so on). i think these pictures have the film-like quality as well, don’t you?




]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112349 Carl Rytterfalk Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:33:05 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112349 Hi Hans, You're doing it the absolutely best way! (imho). With the DP2, using black and white mode is only possible in JPEG mode so you're loosing everything nice about three layer. :) do everything RAW and later switch to monochrome WB and enjoy. You can however desaturate but you're not fully using the information and will get a more blotchy result. Monochrome WB does something magic, film like. If a certain monochrome look is wanted, say a red filtered look - then I'd use a red filter when taking the picture and later use monochrome mode anyways. Much like in the days of film. It's also possible to use this monochrome-WB in Lightroom, but then you first need to switch to monochrome WB in SPP and save in raw, then switch over to Lightroom and oala, all colors are gone and sweet monochrome is up. Not sure with LR3 beta. Hi Hans, You’re doing it the absolutely best way! (imho). With the DP2, using black and white mode is only possible in JPEG mode so you’re loosing everything nice about three layer. :) do everything RAW and later switch to monochrome WB and enjoy. You can however desaturate but you’re not fully using the information and will get a more blotchy result. Monochrome WB does something magic, film like.

If a certain monochrome look is wanted, say a red filtered look – then I’d use a red filter when taking the picture and later use monochrome mode anyways. Much like in the days of film.

It’s also possible to use this monochrome-WB in Lightroom, but then you first need to switch to monochrome WB in SPP and save in raw, then switch over to Lightroom and oala, all colors are gone and sweet monochrome is up. Not sure with LR3 beta.

]]> By: Hans http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112348 Hans Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:23:21 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112348 well well, this is the very reason i'll keep waiting for the sd15 - your monochromes & also my own with my dp2. question: do you set your camera's (sd14 & dp2) to monochrome, or do you convert to monochrome later on in spp or lightroom? i do the latter & am quite satisfied with it (made a develop-preset customized for foveon-shots), but if there is room for improvement, i'd gladly take your advise! well well, this is the very reason i’ll keep waiting for the sd15 – your monochromes & also my own with my dp2. question: do you set your camera’s (sd14 & dp2) to monochrome, or do you convert to monochrome later on in spp or lightroom? i do the latter & am quite satisfied with it (made a develop-preset customized for foveon-shots), but if there is room for improvement, i’d gladly take your advise!

]]> By: Kostas Sarris http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112295 Kostas Sarris Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:21:39 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112295 very nice work Carl, I wish to Lin and you Happy Holidays... I hope Sigma will make a bigger sensor with more Mp for us ;-) Best, very nice work Carl, I wish to Lin and you Happy Holidays…

I hope Sigma will make a bigger sensor with more Mp for us ;-)

Best,

]]> By: Mick http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112260 Mick Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:55:10 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112260 Your kind of taking photographs always leaves me speeechless. I myself didn`t manage to tweak my DP2 to produce this kind of pictures yet. Or may the one behind the camera be the "limiting factor"? Nevertheless, great work! Regards from Germany Mick Your kind of taking photographs always leaves me speeechless.
I myself didn`t manage to tweak my DP2 to produce this kind of pictures yet. Or may the one behind the camera be the “limiting factor”? Nevertheless, great work!

Regards from Germany
Mick

]]> By: Ted Johnson http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/12/17/schillerska-revisited-day-in-black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-112187 Ted Johnson Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:32:34 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/?p=1118#comment-112187 The photos are wonderful. Clearly you had fun. I'm just bummed out Linn *doesn't* have a twin. The photos are wonderful. Clearly you had fun.

I’m just bummed out Linn *doesn’t* have a twin.

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