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By: Rytterfalk

Rytterfalk — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:15:31 +0000

Hej Långskånk!

Va bra! :D Kul att man får hjälpa till.

By: Långskånk

Långskånk — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:21:12 +0000

Jag måste bara tacka för denna jämförelse! Jag fick verkligen upp ögonen för SPP! Mina bilder har aldrig sett bättre ut, de har hela tiden funnits där men med hjälp av SPP så har de kommit fram! :)
Kommer endast använda Lightroom för att fixa till horisonten o dyl. Annars blir det SPP!
Tack igen!

By: Bob van Ooik

Bob van Ooik — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:51:36 +0000

Ha, see, a bit of kicking in the *ss helps ;) Do agree though that sharpening on details in combination with noise is better handled in SPP. In bad light I like the color rendition in SPP on default better. But if you start using the calibration sliders in ACR/LR, sometimes the colors there are better again… Maybe the biggest problem of LR/ACR is that there is too much possible. For Nikon I switched over to Aperture for now. Faster and easier with very natural results. What is what I’m looking for at the moment. LR often resulted in too much “creativity”… Oh always on the search…

By: Mark Alan Thomas

Mark Alan Thomas — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:01:26 +0000

Carl, when you’ve got Lightroom settings you’re satisfied with, please post it here so we can load it into our own Lightroom presets lists. I have my own which I am very happy with, but I’m curious to see what you come up with since your photographs are so beautiful.

By: Carl Rytterfalk

Carl Rytterfalk — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:59:55 +0000

Bob and everyone else with the heart beating some for the ACR, I’ve been developing my skills since last movie and will soon add a new one. It does look a lot better with improved settings. I ALMOST get the same now, which is actually very very good. SPP does however have a bit better noise reduction when it comes to green issues within hair and skin – and also in bad light (yellow) the skin color mode helps a lot. Well, everything is tweakable in ACR I guess so I’ll probably just have to fight some more. :D

Thanks for all input!

By: Clinton

Clinton — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:15:51 +0000

Enjoying your reviews/input as usual. Can’t wait to try a Dp2 when someone i know gets one! ; ))

By: Pedro

Pedro — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:47:54 +0000

Hi Carl,

I am still amazed by your ability to take those marvelous shots !
I am also still new to my sd14 so before developping any raw, I wanted to know your opinion concerning SPP vs Aperture vs Lightroom vs Raw Dev…

It may be a long answer to this question I think, and probably enough to have quite an entire post on this ‘Software Fight’, but definitively being so in awe in front of your shots I really wanted to know which one you prefer and for what reason…

Thanks a lot for those pictures and the time you’ve spent on reading my message

Hoping to hear from you soon

Cheers

Pedro

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By: Pierre

Pierre — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:06:18 +0000

Well, how about trying to deal with ACR sharpening settings, if it’s the same than in LR, the default is not suited for the sharpness of foveon files. The default radius is too large for example : try something like 40/0.7/60/0. With a little clarity as it was just said before I think it’s possible to get this “pop” we see in SPP.

By: Ted Johnson

Ted Johnson — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:32:23 +0000

Carl,

I agree with Bob van Ooik that ACR can be made to work well, and that the out of focus areas seem smoother. RE: microcontrast, I use the clarity slider in ACR as well, which seems to give the extra pop that makes a DP2 shot so wonderful. One thing I haven’t completely dealt with is an overall “veiling flare” appearance to the ACR conversion. Resetting the white and black points as Bob outlines above seems to help.

Best,

Ted

By: Paul Cooper

Paul Cooper — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:54:22 +0000

Carl, please ignore my prior post. I have a problem with ACDSee not reading my SPP output jpegs correctly. Other viewers do. No problem with SPP it turns out. (I’m glad because I like SPP more all the time.)
Great Youtube video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
Cheers,
Paul

By: Bob van Ooik

Bob van Ooik — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:26:56 +0000

Just processed a few in SPP and ACR and they are awfully close. In the end I preferred in this case actually for 3 out of 4 shots the ACR version with sharpening by NIK. Those shots had very smooth and silky OOF areas, in SPP they were simply not as smooth. It looked more or less like clarity had been pushed till 50 or so. Maybe there in is the big difference. SPP has a higher degree of microcontrast on default. That is great for a lot of shots but not always :)

By: Paul Cooper

Paul Cooper — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:30:18 +0000

Sorry, I didn’t mean to post the last message anonymous.
Cheers,
Paul

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:27:52 +0000

Hi Carl,
Working through a VPN it’s going to take me a long time to finish dowmloading the Youtube files so apologies if this is dealt with…
I have the DP2 and there seems to be a colour shift between what one chooses in SPP 3.5.1 and what SPP outputs to Tiffs or Jpegs. The colour shifts away from yellow and towards blue. This is very visible if you compare the file in SPP to the saved image.
This was not the case with SPP 2.5 and your Sigma SD14 Rawpack. Raw files and output colours display as identical.
What are your thoughts? Do you think that they will fix this?
Cheers,
Paul