Comments on: My DP1 youtube review. :D http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/ Digital film user since 2002 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:00:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: DP1 Processing and Write Speeds « My DP1 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81655 DP1 Processing and Write Speeds « My DP1 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:32:55 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81655 [...] the other hand, Carl Rytterfalk has published an eight minute YouTube video (and related blog post) in which he implies the camera is faster than the timings we get from PopPhoto. Carl does a three [...] […] the other hand, Carl Rytterfalk has published an eight minute YouTube video (and related blog post) in which he implies the camera is faster than the timings we get from PopPhoto. Carl does a three […]

]]> By: Brian Mosley http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81442 Brian Mosley Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:10:40 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81442 Thanks Carl, I was hoping to do a multi-user field review for the DP1 - which we did for the Olympus E-3 here : http://www.biofos.com/esystem/e_3ult.html But unfortunately, Paul Reynolds of Sigma UK wasn't quite as forward thinking as the Olympus UK PR people... and declined the opportunity! lol - it does take confidence in your product to give it to a large group of unpaid reviewers! I'll just have to buy one when the dust (and initial interest) has settled and maybe we'll mention it in one of our future reviews. Kind Regards Brian Thanks Carl, I was hoping to do a multi-user field review for the DP1 - which we did for the Olympus E-3 here :
http://www.biofos.com/esystem/e_3ult.html

But unfortunately, Paul Reynolds of Sigma UK wasn’t quite as forward thinking as the Olympus UK PR people… and declined the opportunity! lol - it does take confidence in your product to give it to a large group of unpaid reviewers!

I’ll just have to buy one when the dust (and initial interest) has settled and maybe we’ll mention it in one of our future reviews.

Kind Regards

Brian

]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81388 Carl Rytterfalk Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:56:59 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81388 Hi Brian! :D I know Sigma comes here from time to time. They're very interested in knowing what people want. Remember, this is their first P&S style camera. I will also get back to your points later.. Thanks for sharing. Hi Brian!

:D I know Sigma comes here from time to time. They’re very interested in knowing what people want. Remember, this is their first P&S style camera.

I will also get back to your points later.. Thanks for sharing.

]]> By: Brian Mosley http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81382 Brian Mosley Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:02:23 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81382 Hi Carl, lol, cool video... well done! can you get some feedback to Sigma on the User Interface? Sigma are so close to having a winner... just a bit of finishing work on the firmware and I will be as enthusiastic as you! My comments from dpreview : I had a chance to play with the DP1 on the Sigma stand yesterday at the Focus on Imaging show - it is tantalisingly close to being a 'classic' camera - but I would like to see Sigma knock off a couple more rough edges on the user interface. I will be buying one of these, by the way - so please understand these are intended to be constructive suggestions for improvements - I want to see Sigma have success with this camera. 1) The manual focus wheel is great - my suggestion would be to also use it in AF mode, where the manual focus wheel becomes a zoom box control - with the arrows becoming positional controls for the zoom box which then positions the AF contrast patch. So, you're in AF mode... you rotate the manual zoom wheel and a green outline box shrinks smoothly from the full size to any size on screen. You then move the box to anywhere on the screen to select a focus area. If you switch into MF mode at this point, you get to focus manually, and the screen zooms in to the area highlighted. If you just half press the shutter release (in AF mode) the camera attempts to auto focus centred on the patch you have highlighted. 2) For future ref... put a faster processor in the thing, and more RAM to allow at least 1 fps shooting in RAW mode for upto 6 shots... come on Sigma - don't cheap out on us if this is supposed to be a premium product? 3) I'm surprised that there are *any* issues with image processing if the DP1 shares the same technology as the SD14... I trust any IQ problems will be dealt with before shipping, or soon afterwards via firmware upgrade. I think that overall, Sigma have a winner provided they don't ruin their chances by sticking to a release price of £600 in the UK. It should be more like £400 imho Can't wait to buy one! Kind Regards Brian Hi Carl,

lol, cool video… well done! can you get some feedback to Sigma on the User Interface? Sigma are so close to having a winner… just a bit of finishing work on the firmware and I will be as enthusiastic as you!

My comments from dpreview :

I had a chance to play with the DP1 on the Sigma stand yesterday at the Focus on Imaging show - it is tantalisingly close to being a ‘classic’ camera - but I would like to see Sigma knock off a couple more rough edges on the user interface.

I will be buying one of these, by the way - so please understand these are intended to be constructive suggestions for improvements - I want to see Sigma have success with this camera.

1) The manual focus wheel is great - my suggestion would be to also use it in AF mode, where the manual focus wheel becomes a zoom box control - with the arrows becoming positional controls for the zoom box which then positions the AF contrast patch.

So, you’re in AF mode… you rotate the manual zoom wheel and a green outline box shrinks smoothly from the full size to any size on screen. You then move the box to anywhere on the screen to select a focus area. If you switch into MF mode at this point, you get to focus manually, and the screen zooms in to the area highlighted. If you just half press the shutter release (in AF mode) the camera attempts to auto focus centred on the patch you have highlighted.

2) For future ref… put a faster processor in the thing, and more RAM to allow at least 1 fps shooting in RAW mode for upto 6 shots… come on Sigma - don’t cheap out on us if this is supposed to be a premium product?

3) I’m surprised that there are *any* issues with image processing if the DP1 shares the same technology as the SD14… I trust any IQ problems will be dealt with before shipping, or soon afterwards via firmware upgrade.

I think that overall, Sigma have a winner provided they don’t ruin their chances by sticking to a release price of £600 in the UK. It should be more like £400 imho
Can’t wait to buy one!

Kind Regards

Brian

]]> By: Kassra http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81197 Kassra Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:50:01 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81197 I love this camera and have ordered mine with all that it comes with, and am counting days to get it... but I can't help but see the green vignetting at the edges of almost all posts, be it Sigma official website and (most are not detectable, but impossible to miss on a continuous, uniform background) I don't expect to have to fix this in a photoshop or any computer program as that simple repeating routine should be done on board a camera, and if Sigma can not fix this with a firmware update, I will be a very disappointed first(& last) time customer! The other irritating issue is the megapixel confusion! is it 4.7mp or 14.1mp? A digital image that I open on any screen is rectangular and hence has 'x' number of horizontal pixels times a 'y' number of vertical ones, resulting in the total count of the pixels in the image, often in mega pixels (million pixels). So if the Sigma Foveon x3 sensor outputs a file that is: RAW High 2,640x1,760 (15.4 MB) ( 2640 x 1760 = 4646400, or 4.7 mp ). If it takes foveon 3 times as many sensors to record me a 4.7 mp file i couldn't care less. or if it takes three times more room on my camera or takes three times longer. I love this camera and have ordered mine with all that it comes with, and am counting days to get it… but I can’t help but see the green vignetting at the edges of almost all posts, be it Sigma official website and (most are not detectable, but impossible to miss on a continuous, uniform background)
I don’t expect to have to fix this in a photoshop or any computer program as that simple repeating routine should be done on board a camera, and if Sigma can not fix this with a firmware update, I will be a very disappointed first(& last) time customer!
The other irritating issue is the megapixel confusion! is it 4.7mp or 14.1mp?
A digital image that I open on any screen is rectangular and hence has ‘x’ number of horizontal pixels times a ‘y’ number of vertical ones, resulting in the total count of the pixels in the image, often in mega pixels (million pixels).
So if the Sigma Foveon x3 sensor outputs a file that is:
RAW High 2,640×1,760 (15.4 MB) ( 2640 x 1760 = 4646400, or 4.7 mp ). If it takes foveon 3 times as many sensors to record me a 4.7 mp file i couldn’t care less. or if it takes three times more room on my camera or takes three times longer.

]]> By: Sigma DP1 first impressions | ppause http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81144 Sigma DP1 first impressions | ppause Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:03:29 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81144 [...] My DP1 youtube review [...] […] My DP1 youtube review […]

]]> By: Gleb http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81119 Gleb Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:54:13 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81119 Carl Thanks for quick responding. The Leica I meant was DLux3 which is about £400-£450. From a practical view I would love to be able to keep shooting some actions with minimum delay between shots. As I understand it is the processing that takes time. So how about processing? How long does it take? In other words how soon will DP1 be ready for the next shot in RAW and in jpeg mode? Please advise Thnakyou Carl

Thanks for quick responding. The Leica I meant was DLux3 which is about £400-£450. From a practical view I would love to be able to keep shooting some actions with minimum delay between shots. As I understand it is the processing that takes time. So how about processing? How long does it take?
In other words how soon will DP1 be ready for the next shot in RAW and in jpeg mode? Please advise

Thnakyou

]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81115 Carl Rytterfalk Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:41:52 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81115 Gleb - what was the price on that Leica? ;) The thing is that the writing to the card time is a none issue - it's not that that takes time. It's the processing before the writing starts. At the same moment that the writing to memory card starts, at that moment you can take the next picture. Remember that somewhere around 40MB of data is leaving the sensor before it's re-made to become a saved 11-15MB file. A pretty tough computer is doing some computing. :) Gleb - what was the price on that Leica? ;)

The thing is that the writing to the card time is a none issue - it’s not that that takes time. It’s the processing before the writing starts. At the same moment that the writing to memory card starts, at that moment you can take the next picture.

Remember that somewhere around 40MB of data is leaving the sensor before it’s re-made to become a saved 11-15MB file. A pretty tough computer is doing some computing. :)

]]> By: Luigi http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81111 Luigi Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:29:18 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81111 I have more confidence in the construction of a camera if it's made in Japan, and it's nice to know that Sigma hasn't abandoned its Japanese workers. I have more confidence in the construction of a camera if it’s made in Japan, and it’s nice to know that Sigma hasn’t abandoned its Japanese workers.

]]> By: Gleb http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81110 Gleb Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:26:16 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-81110 Carl, The write time for RAW is somewhat 4sec, which is bearable but not very impressive. Leica can manage the same for 1.5 sec on a fast memory card. And what about writing jpegs? Does it do it faster? Thankyou Carl,

The write time for RAW is somewhat 4sec, which is bearable but not very impressive. Leica can manage the same for 1.5 sec on a fast memory card.

And what about writing jpegs? Does it do it faster?

Thankyou

]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80995 Carl Rytterfalk Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:39:39 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80995 Hi Luigi. All cameras that I have (SD9/10 and 14 the new Dp1) is made in Japan. As well as all the Sigma-branded extra. Where do you want it to be made? Hi Luigi.

All cameras that I have (SD9/10 and 14 the new Dp1) is made in Japan. As well as all the Sigma-branded extra.

Where do you want it to be made?

]]> By: Luigi http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80993 Luigi Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:30:05 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80993 Where does Sigma manufacture their cameras? Where does Sigma manufacture their cameras?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80958 Anonymous Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:48:52 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80958 Thanks for the great review! Thanks for the great review!

]]> By: Johnny in L.A., California http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80941 Johnny in L.A., California Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:00:04 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80941 Carl, I like your review and I especially like your photos. I also like the band Dungen (do you listen to them?). Good things come from Sweden! :) - Johnny Carl, I like your review and I especially like your photos. I also like the band Dungen (do you listen to them?). Good things come from Sweden! :) - Johnny

]]> By: Max http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80935 Max Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:00:58 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80935 I want one. But where can I get the money from? I want one. But where can I get the money from?

]]> By: spalbird http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80922 spalbird Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:51:40 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80922 It was very undertaining to see this clip. You are the simply the BEST!!! (promoter for Sigma, evangelist or whatsoever). The more we speak of DP2, the less people will jump into, just waiting for that new wonder. Now I would buy two, only problem is after getting the SD14 the money is a little tight just right now :/ It was very undertaining to see this clip. You are the simply the BEST!!! (promoter for Sigma, evangelist or whatsoever).

The more we speak of DP2, the less people will jump into, just waiting for that new wonder. Now I would buy two, only problem is after getting the SD14 the money is a little tight just right now :/

]]> By: SimonS http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80908 SimonS Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:36:12 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80908 Very successful quick hands-on review of the DP1 - well done. The only problem with the DP1 is.... mine isn't with me yet! :-( Very successful quick hands-on review of the DP1 - well done.

The only problem with the DP1 is…. mine isn’t with me yet! :-(

]]> By: Linn http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80907 Linn Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:16:00 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80907 Carl, How cute you are! And your naughty brother Sven. I like the video! Linn Carl,

How cute you are! And your naughty brother Sven. I like the video!

Linn

]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80901 Carl Rytterfalk Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:26:52 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80901 Clive My man! :D That's not Josef, I have more brothers. This one is Sven - the one that got married not very long ago. :D Clive My man! :D That’s not Josef, I have more brothers. This one is Sven - the one that got married not very long ago. :D

]]> By: Clive in Basel http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80898 Clive in Basel Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:14:34 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80898 A smile, Carl - and a great open look. Brother Josef is more patient than I thought, and also witty ;). Thanks both for it. Clive A smile, Carl - and a great open look.

Brother Josef is more patient than I thought, and also witty ;).

Thanks both for it.

Clive

]]> By: MyDog 2008 in B&W at Carl Rytterfalk Fotografi http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80884 MyDog 2008 in B&W at Carl Rytterfalk Fotografi Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:35:27 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80884 [...] Link to my Sigma DP1 review!.  [...] […] Link to my Sigma DP1 review!.  […]

]]> By: Carl Rytterfalk http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80872 Carl Rytterfalk Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:16:01 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80872 Hej Christian och Tack! Ja, de 4.6miljonerna går att blåsa upp riktigt mycket! Jag kommer att stå på fotomässan i Elmia i början på April och visa DP1an. Kommer då också att ha med mig några större utskrifter från SD14 och DP1 för den som vill granska detaljer. :) I Sigma Photo Pro har du något som heter "double size output" som ger dig en 18mp fil - mycket användbart. Hej Christian och Tack!

Ja, de 4.6miljonerna går att blåsa upp riktigt mycket! Jag kommer att stå på fotomässan i Elmia i början på April och visa DP1an. Kommer då också att ha med mig några större utskrifter från SD14 och DP1 för den som vill granska detaljer. :)

I Sigma Photo Pro har du något som heter “double size output” som ger dig en 18mp fil - mycket användbart.

]]> By: michael spotts http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80866 michael spotts Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:52:29 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80866 Great review. That was hilarious. Sigma should hire you. Great review. That was hilarious. Sigma should hire you.

]]> By: Christian Odelmalm http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80855 Christian Odelmalm Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:30:41 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80855 Haha, helt underbar recension! :D 4 megapixlar sa du? Går de att blåsa upp till de utlovade 14 megapixlarna i Photo Pro eller får man nöja sig med bara 4 (skarpa) megapixlar? Har kollat runt på olika sidor men det är ingen som nämner. Älskar din sida btw, keep it up! Haha, helt underbar recension! :D

4 megapixlar sa du? Går de att blåsa upp till de utlovade 14 megapixlarna i Photo Pro eller får man nöja sig med bara 4 (skarpa) megapixlar? Har kollat runt på olika sidor men det är ingen som nämner.

Älskar din sida btw, keep it up!

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]]> By: My DP1 youtube review. :D http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80850 My DP1 youtube review. :D Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:19:17 +0000 http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/03/09/my-dp1-youtube-review-d/#comment-80850 [...] netEX - networked experience wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt Now, there are some things that I’d like to add to this video - that didn’t find it way into it. And that is some things that I’d like to be altered / changed in future updates / firmwares. The first one is that while you’re waiting for a picture to save then I can’t change settings / exposure. I’d like to be able to do that so I’m ready for the next shot. Sure, it’s about seconds but life’s short. Secondly I’d like a tilt able LCD so that I can easily view from above when I shot kids o [...] […] netEX - networked experience wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt Now, there are some things that I’d like to add to this video - that didn’t find it way into it. And that is some things that I’d like to be altered / changed in future updates / firmwares. The first one is that while you’re waiting for a picture to save then I can’t change settings / exposure. I’d like to be able to do that so I’m ready for the next shot. Sure, it’s about seconds but life’s short. Secondly I’d like a tilt able LCD so that I can easily view from above when I shot kids o […]

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