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		<title>By: Elinchrom Ranger Quadra &#124; day 2. &#124; Carl Rytterfalk Fotografi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elinchrom Ranger Quadra &#124; day 2. &#124; Carl Rytterfalk Fotografi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] flashy too you know).. Also I use the same technique with this flash as I did back with the &#8220;club photos&#8221; -  without a meeter you do need to take more shots to get good light. It does take time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] flashy too you know).. Also I use the same technique with this flash as I did back with the &#8220;club photos&#8221; -  without a meeter you do need to take more shots to get good light. It does take time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Soyef Uddin Tarafdar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soyef Uddin Tarafdar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just been reading your article and was wondering if you can help me with my setting for taking photo&#039;s in bars/nightclubs that have different lighting in various parts. One of the bars I have taken photo&#039;s at has one end fairly bright and other end quite dark with the middle part sort of a transition area between the 2 ends.

The equipment I use are:

Olympus E-410 DSLR camera
Olympus Zuiko Digital 35mm f3.5 Macro lens
Sigma 18-50mm f3.5-5.6 DC lens
Olympus FL-36 flash gun

Out of the 2 lens the Sigma 18-50mm f3.5-5.6 DC lens is my main lens that I use when I go out taking photo&#039;s in clubs and bars

You can see some of the photo&#039;s that I have taken on my FaceBook group: http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/group.php?gid=45358251081

Any help you can give me would be appreciated.

Thank you 
Soyef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just been reading your article and was wondering if you can help me with my setting for taking photo&#8217;s in bars/nightclubs that have different lighting in various parts. One of the bars I have taken photo&#8217;s at has one end fairly bright and other end quite dark with the middle part sort of a transition area between the 2 ends.</p>
<p>The equipment I use are:</p>
<p>Olympus E-410 DSLR camera<br />
Olympus Zuiko Digital 35mm f3.5 Macro lens<br />
Sigma 18-50mm f3.5-5.6 DC lens<br />
Olympus FL-36 flash gun</p>
<p>Out of the 2 lens the Sigma 18-50mm f3.5-5.6 DC lens is my main lens that I use when I go out taking photo&#8217;s in clubs and bars</p>
<p>You can see some of the photo&#8217;s that I have taken on my FaceBook group: <a href="http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/group.php?gid=45358251081" rel="nofollow">http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/group.php?gid=45358251081</a></p>
<p>Any help you can give me would be appreciated.</p>
<p>Thank you<br />
Soyef</p>
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		<title>By: itime@dp1</title>
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		<dc:creator>itime@dp1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great idea,thks carl share this wonderful experience~
we always get surprise from here.LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great idea,thks carl share this wonderful experience~<br />
we always get surprise from here.LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Artur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks mate this settings really works and i&#039;v made same bouncecard works nice . You can check http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturf/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mate this settings really works and i&#8217;v made same bouncecard works nice . You can check <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturf/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturf/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Dodds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigma 30mm at f1.4 looks sharp.

I tried Gary Fong whaletail diffuser on Sigma 500, puffer on built-in. Not bright enough for ISO 100 and 21mm lens.

Wax paper gives enough diffusion for an 8&quot; Clorox bottle bottom used as bounce reflector. Wax paper will need help from an intermediate lens for straight flash diffuser. I&#039;m trying for the best of both worlds as far as direct light and bounce or diffusion. Packman&#039;s explanation is helping me to understand widening the light source evenly, and then aim to lose as little light as possible while widening evenly. Unfortunately the easiest ways of widening the light source evenly also throw away a lot of light. Karl&#039;s bounce card works as well as anything I&#039;ve seen, in terms of efficiency, which is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigma 30mm at f1.4 looks sharp.</p>
<p>I tried Gary Fong whaletail diffuser on Sigma 500, puffer on built-in. Not bright enough for ISO 100 and 21mm lens.</p>
<p>Wax paper gives enough diffusion for an 8&#8243; Clorox bottle bottom used as bounce reflector. Wax paper will need help from an intermediate lens for straight flash diffuser. I&#8217;m trying for the best of both worlds as far as direct light and bounce or diffusion. Packman&#8217;s explanation is helping me to understand widening the light source evenly, and then aim to lose as little light as possible while widening evenly. Unfortunately the easiest ways of widening the light source evenly also throw away a lot of light. Karl&#8217;s bounce card works as well as anything I&#8217;ve seen, in terms of efficiency, which is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott! Sometimes you need something much stronger! :) That&#039;s when you bring your ProFoto AcuteB 600r and a ring flash! :D At least I would like to bring one if I had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott! Sometimes you need something much stronger! :) That&#8217;s when you bring your ProFoto AcuteB 600r and a ring flash! :D At least I would like to bring one if I had.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Greiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Greiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great guide.  I had a lot of fun yesterday (not!) trying to deal with taking pictures at a convention where the ambient light was so strong that it really precludes you from dragging the shutter too much.  Shooting at 1/15 sec. really introduced blur because the ambient light would burn a ghost image and the temp would make the flashed image look like crud.

I have no one but myself to blame for not experimenting enough.  Next time! :)


- Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great guide.  I had a lot of fun yesterday (not!) trying to deal with taking pictures at a convention where the ambient light was so strong that it really precludes you from dragging the shutter too much.  Shooting at 1/15 sec. really introduced blur because the ambient light would burn a ghost image and the temp would make the flashed image look like crud.</p>
<p>I have no one but myself to blame for not experimenting enough.  Next time! :)</p>
<p>- Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Chris (ThePanda)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris (ThePanda)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Carl! This is really helpful. It lets your think about flash in a different way. I have blogged it on my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Carl! This is really helpful. It lets your think about flash in a different way. I have blogged it on my website.</p>
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		<title>By: Packman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of my nightclub photography is done with hard light.  The edgy stuff I do lends itself to harsh shadows.

I&#039;ll try to use two remote flash heads.  One hand held an arms length to my left or right.  The other i&#039;ll use as a crossing backlight opposite the one I hold.  For the back light i&#039;ll put it on the floor or hang it off something in the room (trying to hide it directly behind my subject) or sometime I get someone to hold it.  If i&#039;m in a smaller room or theres anything bounceable i&#039;ll use a hard key light like I described an arms length to my side and then the other I&#039;ll bounce as a soft fill light.

The other major thing is that I&#039;ll drag the shutter to get a soft ambient fill, usually .5 to 1.5 seconds exposure time.  I set the apperature to between about f/8 for my flash at about 6 feet to f/2 at 20 feet.

I do have a couple different 1x1 foot soft box attachment for the flashes but they only soften (i.e. wrap light arround the subject when the flash is at most 3 feet from the subject and that is often too close so I don&#039;t move them much.

A friend recently started using a a thin white 3 foot long tube wraped arround the head.  I havent seen the results but I do imagine that at a distance of up 6 feet this should create a nice soft wrap if held horizontally.  It&#039;s just a strange and unweildy thing to have to carry, but i&#039;m gonna try it eventually.

www.packman.fotopic.net
www.nightclubs.fotopic.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of my nightclub photography is done with hard light.  The edgy stuff I do lends itself to harsh shadows.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to use two remote flash heads.  One hand held an arms length to my left or right.  The other i&#8217;ll use as a crossing backlight opposite the one I hold.  For the back light i&#8217;ll put it on the floor or hang it off something in the room (trying to hide it directly behind my subject) or sometime I get someone to hold it.  If i&#8217;m in a smaller room or theres anything bounceable i&#8217;ll use a hard key light like I described an arms length to my side and then the other I&#8217;ll bounce as a soft fill light.</p>
<p>The other major thing is that I&#8217;ll drag the shutter to get a soft ambient fill, usually .5 to 1.5 seconds exposure time.  I set the apperature to between about f/8 for my flash at about 6 feet to f/2 at 20 feet.</p>
<p>I do have a couple different 1&#215;1 foot soft box attachment for the flashes but they only soften (i.e. wrap light arround the subject when the flash is at most 3 feet from the subject and that is often too close so I don&#8217;t move them much.</p>
<p>A friend recently started using a a thin white 3 foot long tube wraped arround the head.  I havent seen the results but I do imagine that at a distance of up 6 feet this should create a nice soft wrap if held horizontally.  It&#8217;s just a strange and unweildy thing to have to carry, but i&#8217;m gonna try it eventually.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.packman.fotopic.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.packman.fotopic.net</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nightclubs.fotopic.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.nightclubs.fotopic.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: komar_kzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>komar_kzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotsman, You might want to check this out: 
1: Leo Flat IMG http://www.mininova.org/tor/1014949
2: Insanely Mac Forum (X86 section)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotsman, You might want to check this out:<br />
1: Leo Flat IMG <a href="http://www.mininova.org/tor/1014949" rel="nofollow">http://www.mininova.org/tor/1014949</a><br />
2: Insanely Mac Forum (X86 section)</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Packman for the clarification and the information!! What are you using for your consert shots? I wanna know much more about this. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Packman for the clarification and the information!! What are you using for your consert shots? I wanna know much more about this. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Packman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add one thing about bounce photography.

Size matters. Distance too.

Softness as it relates to light is all about light coming from a larger source.  A bounce that is 2 inches is about the same as a bounce that is 4 inches.  You really need something larger that a foot or 3 feet to make any significant difference than a 6 inch bounce.  I come from the motion picture world as a grip.  We use diffusion all the time and size does matter.  A 2 foot size diffusion at 4 feet subject difference is equal to a 4 foot diffusion material at a 8 foot distance (maybe even at 6 feet because of the inverse square rule)

The reason a small bounce card on a camera gives any lighting effect is because a direct flash strobe light acts almost like a pinpoint coming from the element in the flash head(with a minimum of diffusion coming from the mostly clear lens on the head of the flash unit).  So a four inch bounce card is about ten times the size of a direct flashes point of origin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add one thing about bounce photography.</p>
<p>Size matters. Distance too.</p>
<p>Softness as it relates to light is all about light coming from a larger source.  A bounce that is 2 inches is about the same as a bounce that is 4 inches.  You really need something larger that a foot or 3 feet to make any significant difference than a 6 inch bounce.  I come from the motion picture world as a grip.  We use diffusion all the time and size does matter.  A 2 foot size diffusion at 4 feet subject difference is equal to a 4 foot diffusion material at a 8 foot distance (maybe even at 6 feet because of the inverse square rule)</p>
<p>The reason a small bounce card on a camera gives any lighting effect is because a direct flash strobe light acts almost like a pinpoint coming from the element in the flash head(with a minimum of diffusion coming from the mostly clear lens on the head of the flash unit).  So a four inch bounce card is about ten times the size of a direct flashes point of origin.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Packman! Nice work, strange fellow. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Packman! Nice work, strange fellow. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Packman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>second try

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/359/0770l1140318rh2.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>second try</p>
<p><a href="http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/359/0770l1140318rh2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/359/0770l1140318rh2.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Packman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one I took with two remote flashes, ambiant, and blacklight

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one I took with two remote flashes, ambiant, and blacklight</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chuck! It&#039;s a good idea to use a wall if you have one. Not always possible though. And in the middle of everything I like things to be simple. :D A wall could give great results or terrible depening on distans and color and amount of people in front of it. 

Thanks a bunch. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chuck! It&#8217;s a good idea to use a wall if you have one. Not always possible though. And in the middle of everything I like things to be simple. :D A wall could give great results or terrible depening on distans and color and amount of people in front of it. </p>
<p>Thanks a bunch. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Lantz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Lantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl:  Thanks for taking the time to experiment and publish this great information. It&#039;s a real time-saver.  I was wondering why you advise turning the flash head sideways, rather than head-on? Is it to center-concentrate the light, or ... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl:  Thanks for taking the time to experiment and publish this great information. It&#8217;s a real time-saver.  I was wondering why you advise turning the flash head sideways, rather than head-on? Is it to center-concentrate the light, or &#8230; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Scotsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the sounds of what I have been reading I might be making much use of that user group Carl.
I might have to look into that Komar. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the sounds of what I have been reading I might be making much use of that user group Carl.<br />
I might have to look into that Komar. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Learn flash photography &#124; Club &#124; speed camera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Learn flash photography &#124; Club &#124; speed camera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: komar_kzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>komar_kzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Carl! Great manual! Scotsman I have a little hit for You. If you have a little knowledge in IT you can actualy run MAC Leopard on intel or even amd with a little of luck. I&#039;m running Leo on my C2duo based on Asus P5W DH Deluxe. Works great! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Carl! Great manual! Scotsman I have a little hit for You. If you have a little knowledge in IT you can actualy run MAC Leopard on intel or even amd with a little of luck. I&#8217;m running Leo on my C2duo based on Asus P5W DH Deluxe. Works great! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sun WB eh?  I&#039;ll have to give that a try.  Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sun WB eh?  I&#8217;ll have to give that a try.  Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, this is great stuff. The link you have provided earlier to this guy who shows how to cut and set the paper as well as your take off on that are very inspirational. I have tried it already several times and it works just great. The only restriction I feel with my l7-70 lens is that I do have to get too close to the subject to get enough light from the flash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, this is great stuff. The link you have provided earlier to this guy who shows how to cut and set the paper as well as your take off on that are very inspirational. I have tried it already several times and it works just great. The only restriction I feel with my l7-70 lens is that I do have to get too close to the subject to get enough light from the flash</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spalbird! I added a little something about the assist light. Thanks for the tip. It&#039;s very important and should not be forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spalbird! I added a little something about the assist light. Thanks for the tip. It&#8217;s very important and should not be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acually I&#039;m using Sun WB on the SD14. I think that gives a better start and looks much better on the LCD and that&#039;s what people see and agree to. :)  Then I bring up the temp slightly in the raw converter. Most of these are converted using Raw Developer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acually I&#8217;m using Sun WB on the SD14. I think that gives a better start and looks much better on the LCD and that&#8217;s what people see and agree to. :)  Then I bring up the temp slightly in the raw converter. Most of these are converted using Raw Developer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your white balance set at?  Flash (I&#039;m assuming) or otherwise...
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your white balance set at?  Flash (I&#8217;m assuming) or otherwise&#8230;<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: spalbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>spalbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Sigma knows what good reputation Carl brought to them. Thanks for the review:) You could have mentioned about the importance of the AF assistent light. Now i am waiting for a 3rd party flash guide, useful for my Nikon SB-28 in auto mode, or DSGs Metz 54 :D 

For some pictures I would have liked a little less flash power, e.g. the 3rd picture here in the row. I don&#039;t know how this would be in practise but I could imagine that with complete manual flash settings you have best control, which would mean that you would have to care about distance, back ground levels and manual exposure settings at the same time.

Of course, that night club theme is a rather academic application for me, but I enjoy it anyways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Sigma knows what good reputation Carl brought to them. Thanks for the review:) You could have mentioned about the importance of the AF assistent light. Now i am waiting for a 3rd party flash guide, useful for my Nikon SB-28 in auto mode, or DSGs Metz 54 :D </p>
<p>For some pictures I would have liked a little less flash power, e.g. the 3rd picture here in the row. I don&#8217;t know how this would be in practise but I could imagine that with complete manual flash settings you have best control, which would mean that you would have to care about distance, back ground levels and manual exposure settings at the same time.</p>
<p>Of course, that night club theme is a rather academic application for me, but I enjoy it anyways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rytterfalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Rytterfalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful! I really hope you&#039;ll love it as much as I do. If there is any questions don&#039;t hesitate to write. The user group isn&#039;t that big yet and we need to take care of each other. :D 

About Mac only Raw Developer , the latest Sigma Photo Pro 2.3 is NOT bad. You can download it from www.sigma-sd14.com (in case you didn&#039;t know). You should also give Darkroom a try. Fun software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful! I really hope you&#8217;ll love it as much as I do. If there is any questions don&#8217;t hesitate to write. The user group isn&#8217;t that big yet and we need to take care of each other. :D </p>
<p>About Mac only Raw Developer , the latest Sigma Photo Pro 2.3 is NOT bad. You can download it from <a href="http://www.sigma-sd14.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sigma-sd14.com</a> (in case you didn&#8217;t know). You should also give Darkroom a try. Fun software.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I want to say thank you for this guide but I think Sigma should be thanking you too. It&#039;s thanks to your original nightclub pictures that persuaded me to go out and buy the Sigma SD14. I had seen the Sd14 at a great price of £499 plus £200 cashback at Jessops over the Christmas period and was considering buying it but I&#039;ve been saving  my first Dslr purchase for when I can afford the Fuji S5 which is considerably more expensive. So with this in mind I was hesitant in buying the Sigma because I still want to buy the S5 at some point and didn&#039;t really want to invest in two sets of lenses. However that price kept eating away at me so I had to consider how I would use it and what lens I might want to invest in if I were to buy. I decided after much consideration that although up until now I&#039;ve mainly been into landscape photography I&#039;d like to get into more portraiture photography specifically when enjoying music in an intimate venue or nightclubs - so with this in mind I decided I&#039;d most likely buy the 30mm F1.4 prime. 

Of course I&#039;d also need a flashgun able to bounce off the ceiling and was considering the Sigma again, mostly due to price I&#039;m afraid. It was then I logged on to dpreview to see if I could see any reviews or threads on the flashgun and came across your images from your first night and I was blown away by the quality. Of course the best thing was that it ticked off the boxes SD 14, 30mm F1.4 prime, Sigma 500 series flashgun - so my hesitant stance evaporated and I ordered the SD14 the very next day. 

Unfortunately I don&#039;t have an Apple computer so I can&#039;t use Raw developer - but hey can&#039;t have everything in life. I&#039;m assuming with a bit of work PS or Lightroom may be used to get similar results. But anyway my point is drifted, which is to say Sigma should have you on commission. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I want to say thank you for this guide but I think Sigma should be thanking you too. It&#8217;s thanks to your original nightclub pictures that persuaded me to go out and buy the Sigma SD14. I had seen the Sd14 at a great price of £499 plus £200 cashback at Jessops over the Christmas period and was considering buying it but I&#8217;ve been saving  my first Dslr purchase for when I can afford the Fuji S5 which is considerably more expensive. So with this in mind I was hesitant in buying the Sigma because I still want to buy the S5 at some point and didn&#8217;t really want to invest in two sets of lenses. However that price kept eating away at me so I had to consider how I would use it and what lens I might want to invest in if I were to buy. I decided after much consideration that although up until now I&#8217;ve mainly been into landscape photography I&#8217;d like to get into more portraiture photography specifically when enjoying music in an intimate venue or nightclubs &#8211; so with this in mind I decided I&#8217;d most likely buy the 30mm F1.4 prime. </p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;d also need a flashgun able to bounce off the ceiling and was considering the Sigma again, mostly due to price I&#8217;m afraid. It was then I logged on to dpreview to see if I could see any reviews or threads on the flashgun and came across your images from your first night and I was blown away by the quality. Of course the best thing was that it ticked off the boxes SD 14, 30mm F1.4 prime, Sigma 500 series flashgun &#8211; so my hesitant stance evaporated and I ordered the SD14 the very next day. </p>
<p>Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have an Apple computer so I can&#8217;t use Raw developer &#8211; but hey can&#8217;t have everything in life. I&#8217;m assuming with a bit of work PS or Lightroom may be used to get similar results. But anyway my point is drifted, which is to say Sigma should have you on commission. Keep up the good work!</p>
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